Studies in John 14-16: John 14:8-11
John 14:8-11
(8) Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. (9) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? (10) Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. (11) Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Jesus again emphasizes it. . . If you’ve seen me, then you’ve seen the Father. God is a Spirit. You cannot see a Spirit unless it manifests itself as something. In 64 verses, in both the Old Testamant and the New, the Bible talks of the angel of the Lord:
Genesis 16:7,9,10,11; 22:11,15;
Spoke to Hagar in the wilderness, Spoke to Abraham when he raised the knife to sacrifice Isaac,
Exodus 3:2;
Spoke to Moses out of the burning bush
Numbers 22:22,23,24,25,26,27,31,32,34,35;
Spoke to Balaam
Judges 2:1,4; 5:23; 6:11,12,21,22; 13:3,13,15,16,17,18,20,21;
Spoke to all the children of Israel at Bochim, Spoke to Gideon, Spoke to wife of Zorah (Samson’s mother), Spoke to Manoah (Samson’s father),
2 Samuel 24:16;
Was by the threshingplace of Araunah the Jebusite.
1 Kings 19:7;
Spoke to Elijah
2 Kings 1:3,15; 19:35;
Spoke to Elijah, smote in the camp of the Assyrians
1 Chronicles 21:12,15,16,18,30;
Appeared to David, spoke through Gad to David,
Psalms 34:7; 35:5,6;
Mentioned as a protector
Isaiah 37:36;
Smote in the camp of the Assyrians
Zechariah 1:11,12; 3:1,5,6; 12:8;
Appeared to Zechariah,
Matthew 1:20,24; 2:13,19; 28:2;
Spoke to Joseph in a dream announcing Mary’s pregnancy, Spoke to Joseph in a dream telling him to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt. Spoke to Joseph in a dream, told him it was safe to return from Egypt. Rolled the stone away from the door of Jesus tomb.
Luke 1:11; 2:9;
Appeared to Zacharias (John the Baptists father) in the temple, appeared to the shepherds in the field to announce Jesus birth.
Acts 5:19; 7:30; 8:26; 12:7,23;
Opened the doors to the prison, Mentioned in Stephen’s testimony as speaking to Moses out of the burning bush. Appeared to Phillip and told him to go meet the Eunuch of Ethiopia, Appeared to Peter in prison, smote him on the side.
There are an additional 13 verses where the phrase “Angel of God” is used:
Genesis 21:17; 31:11;
Spoke to Hagar, Spoke to Jacob
Exodus 14:19;
Blocked the way of the Egyptian army, before the Israelites crossed the Red Sea
Judges 6:20; 13:6,9;
Spoke to Gideon, Spoke to Samson’s mother
1 Samuel 29:9;
Achish refers to David as an angel of God
2 Samuel 14:17,20; 19:27;
A handmaiden refers to David as an angel of God . Mephibosheth refers to David as an angel of God.
Acts 10:3; 27:23;
Appeared in a vision to Cornelius. Appeared to Paul.
Galatians 4:14;
Paul received by the Galatians as an angel of God.
Seventy-seven different verses mention the angel of the Lord or the angel of God, but we don’t say that God is an angel. We understand that is one way in which God manifested Himself to mankind.
John says in chapter 4 verse 24 of his gospel that God is a Spirit. In various verses of the Bible, it is said either that people have or people cannot see God:
(Genesis 32:30)
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
(Judges 13:22)
And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
(John 1:18)
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
(1 John 4:12)
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
(3 John 1:11)
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
Scripture cannot contradict itself, therefor how can both of these sets of statement statements be true? One hand, it is clear that God is a Spirit. You cannot see a spirit, but on the other hand Jesus said that If you’ve seen me then you’ve seen the Father. . .meaning that Jesus is how God manifested Himself in flesh. . .the angel of the Lord is also how God has manifested Himself. . .the angel of God is another description of how He manifested Himself. . . and you can see those manifestations, so both statements are correct. There is no contradiction in the Word of God.
(8) Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. (9) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? (10) Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. (11) Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Jesus again emphasizes it. . . If you’ve seen me, then you’ve seen the Father. God is a Spirit. You cannot see a Spirit unless it manifests itself as something. In 64 verses, in both the Old Testamant and the New, the Bible talks of the angel of the Lord:
Genesis 16:7,9,10,11; 22:11,15;
Spoke to Hagar in the wilderness, Spoke to Abraham when he raised the knife to sacrifice Isaac,
Exodus 3:2;
Spoke to Moses out of the burning bush
Numbers 22:22,23,24,25,26,27,31,32,34,35;
Spoke to Balaam
Judges 2:1,4; 5:23; 6:11,12,21,22; 13:3,13,15,16,17,18,20,21;
Spoke to all the children of Israel at Bochim, Spoke to Gideon, Spoke to wife of Zorah (Samson’s mother), Spoke to Manoah (Samson’s father),
2 Samuel 24:16;
Was by the threshingplace of Araunah the Jebusite.
1 Kings 19:7;
Spoke to Elijah
2 Kings 1:3,15; 19:35;
Spoke to Elijah, smote in the camp of the Assyrians
1 Chronicles 21:12,15,16,18,30;
Appeared to David, spoke through Gad to David,
Psalms 34:7; 35:5,6;
Mentioned as a protector
Isaiah 37:36;
Smote in the camp of the Assyrians
Zechariah 1:11,12; 3:1,5,6; 12:8;
Appeared to Zechariah,
Matthew 1:20,24; 2:13,19; 28:2;
Spoke to Joseph in a dream announcing Mary’s pregnancy, Spoke to Joseph in a dream telling him to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt. Spoke to Joseph in a dream, told him it was safe to return from Egypt. Rolled the stone away from the door of Jesus tomb.
Luke 1:11; 2:9;
Appeared to Zacharias (John the Baptists father) in the temple, appeared to the shepherds in the field to announce Jesus birth.
Acts 5:19; 7:30; 8:26; 12:7,23;
Opened the doors to the prison, Mentioned in Stephen’s testimony as speaking to Moses out of the burning bush. Appeared to Phillip and told him to go meet the Eunuch of Ethiopia, Appeared to Peter in prison, smote him on the side.
There are an additional 13 verses where the phrase “Angel of God” is used:
Genesis 21:17; 31:11;
Spoke to Hagar, Spoke to Jacob
Exodus 14:19;
Blocked the way of the Egyptian army, before the Israelites crossed the Red Sea
Judges 6:20; 13:6,9;
Spoke to Gideon, Spoke to Samson’s mother
1 Samuel 29:9;
Achish refers to David as an angel of God
2 Samuel 14:17,20; 19:27;
A handmaiden refers to David as an angel of God . Mephibosheth refers to David as an angel of God.
Acts 10:3; 27:23;
Appeared in a vision to Cornelius. Appeared to Paul.
Galatians 4:14;
Paul received by the Galatians as an angel of God.
Seventy-seven different verses mention the angel of the Lord or the angel of God, but we don’t say that God is an angel. We understand that is one way in which God manifested Himself to mankind.
John says in chapter 4 verse 24 of his gospel that God is a Spirit. In various verses of the Bible, it is said either that people have or people cannot see God:
(Genesis 32:30)
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
(Judges 13:22)
And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
(John 1:18)
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
(1 John 4:12)
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
(3 John 1:11)
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
Scripture cannot contradict itself, therefor how can both of these sets of statement statements be true? One hand, it is clear that God is a Spirit. You cannot see a spirit, but on the other hand Jesus said that If you’ve seen me then you’ve seen the Father. . .meaning that Jesus is how God manifested Himself in flesh. . .the angel of the Lord is also how God has manifested Himself. . .the angel of God is another description of how He manifested Himself. . . and you can see those manifestations, so both statements are correct. There is no contradiction in the Word of God.
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